Hotmail lehnt Mails meines Servers ab.

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holm

Well-Known Member
Von Hotmail werden Mails von meinem MXer abgewiesen, mit der Begründung



"<postmaster@hotmail.com>: host mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.152] said: 550 SC-001

(SNT0-MC2-F51) Unfortunately, messages from 46.4.195.14 weren't sent.

Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network

is on our block list. You can also refer your provider to

http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors. (in reply to MAIL

FROM command)"



Angeblich blacklisted. Ich /die domain bzw. der MXer bmail.freibergnet.de) habe eine weiße Weste, nirgendwo gelistet. Das Einzige was ich mir "zu Schulden kommen lassen habe" war ein fehlender SPF Record, der ist aber auch seit über einer Woche drin.



Ich habe nun gelesen das die einfach Netzblöcke sperren. Ich finde nirgendwo bei denen was um mich über

die Verfahrensweise zu beklagen und den Eintrag los zu werden, hat einer ne Idee?



Typisch Mickeysoft wiedermal.



Gruß,



Holm
 
@Raktor: Was war am Titel so falsch? Der war doch explizit schön und den Umständen entsprechend gewählt, oder nicht?

@foxit: ja, da war ich mittlerweile schon und habe den Müll ausgefüllt.
Ansonsten habe ich derzeit genau 2 zurückgekommene Mails, ich werde den Kunden empfehlen das man besser keine Mails mit Hotmail macht.
Mailkonto in den USA... na sowas..Provider die NSA? :-)

Saftladen, wie immer wenn man mit Microsoft zu tun hat.

Es fab mal schöne Zeiten, da hat hotmail noch gefetzt :-)
Das waren die Zeiten als deren Maschinen noch mit FreeBSD liefen und sie nicht zu Mikrosoft gehörten.

Gruß,

Holm
 
Die Spinnen die Römer:
WINLV.EDFS.WW.00.EN.MSF.RMD.TS.T01.SPT.00.EM@css.one.microsoft.com wrote:

> Dear Holm Tiffe
>
>
> We have completed reviewing the IP(s) you submitted. The following
> table contains the results of our investigation.
>
>
> More information needed
> 88.198.63.73;
> We were unable to identify anything on our side that would prevent your
> mail from reaching Outlook.com customers.

I haven't used this IP address in the past for sending mails, but
this is possible in the future, so I've listed it.
>
> If you are still experiencing deliverability issues, please reply to
> this email with a detailed description of the problem you are having,
> including specific error messages, and an agent will contact you.
>
> If this is a new IP space, and you have not yet begun to send mail to
> Outlook.com users, please reply to this email and one of our support
> team members will contact you to collect more information.
>
> Conditionally mitigated
> 46.4.195.8; 46.4.195.9; 46.4.195.10; 46.4.195.11; 46.4.195.12;
> 46.4.195.13; 46.4.195.14; 46.4.195.15;
> Our investigation has determined that the above IP(s) qualify for
> conditional mitigation. These IP(s) have been unblocked, but may be
> subject to low daily email limits until they have established a good
> reputation.

Why where they blocked at all? Point me a single cause!

Get me right: I not want sending Mail to hotmail customers at all,
maybe I should block hotmails adresses without any cause for this?
>
> Please note that mitigating this issue does not guarantee that your
> email will be delivered to a user???s inbox.

Yes, Microsoft doesn't guarantee for anything besides of bluescreens.

>
> Ongoing complaints from users will result in removal of the mitigation.
>

Hm, I'll do the same here then.

> Mitigation may take 24 - 48 hours to replicate completely throughout
> our system.
>
> If you feel your issue is not yet resolved, please reply to this email
> and one of our support team members will contact you for further
> investigation.
>
>
>
>
> Regardless of the deliverability status, Outlook.com recommends that
> all senders join two free programs that provide visibility into the
> Outlook.com traffic on your sending IP(s), the sending IP reputation
> with Outlook.com and the Outlook.com user complaint rates.

No. I have to register then on Outlook.com which is the very same then
registering at NSA.gov and let my fingerprints there. Nothanks.
Dou you think you are the Internet ehy? Most things run a lot better
without Windows.
>
>
> Junk Email Reporting program (JMRP) When an Outlook.com user marks an
> email as "junk", senders enrolled in this program get a copy of the
> mail forwarded to the email address of their choice. It allows senders
> to see which mails are being marked as junk and to identify mail
> traffic you did not intend to send. To join, please visit
> http://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsjmrpp&page=support_home
> _options_form_byemail&ct=eformts.
>
>
> Smart Network Data Services program (SNDS). This program allows you to
> monitor the ???health??? and reputation of your registered IPs by providing
> data about traffic such as mail volume and complaint rates seen
> originating from your IPs. To register, please visit
> http://postmaster.live.com/snds/.

Don't really want this, there are better services around.

>
>
> There is no silver bullet to maintaining or improving good IP
> reputation, but these programs help you proactively manage your email
> eco-system to help better ensure deliverability to Outlook.com users.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Outlook.com Deliverability Support
>

I think those services are got for managing you out of business.
You already have a bad reputation, seems you are on the right way
to finalize the problem. You don't even have am responsible Mail Address
to complain about your house made problems.

Regards,

Holm Tiffe
 
Ich sag dir, dass das vergebene Liebesmühe sein wird.. Das läuft bei MS alles automatisch und dein Protest geht denen sonstwo vorbei. Wenn du ein Problem hast mit ihren Services oder besser gesagt deine Kunden, werden die halt mit dem Ofenrohr ins Gebirge schauen müssen.
 
Was denn für ein Problem?

Jan 14 14:34:11 bmail postfix/smtp[96267]: ECD4C929A508: to=<matt8@hotmail.de>, relay=mx4.ho
tmail.com[65.55.37.120]:25, delay=1.3, delays=0.01/0.01/0.48/0.77, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (2
50 <20140114133408.GA95917@beast.freibergnet.de> Queued mail for delivery)

@lechindianer: Es muß auch mal Sachen geben die einem am Arsch vorbei gehen. Hotmail ist eine solche Sache.
Ich habe auch schon mal die Maileinlieferung von t-offline dicht gemacht, als die mehr Spam als mail eingeliefert hatten
und die Beschwerden gebündelt t-offline um den Hals gehangen. Die Entschuldigung habe ich noch irgendwo im Mailarchiv.

Mein Mailserver hat durchaus Last, das problem mit die im obigen Log zu stehenden Mailadresse (matt8) hatte ich selber vor 7 Tagen,
habe mich aber nicht drum gekümmert (aus Zeitgründen). Die erste Beschwerde eines Kunden kam heute und heute habe ich mich drum
gekümmert. Das heißt also 2 nicht funktionierende Hotmailadressen in 7 Tagen. Das muß auch überhaupt nicht funktionieren und ist
immernoch gut.

Hotmail ist lt. Wikipedia bekannt dafür das Mail verloren geht, ich bisher nicht.

Das mit den Automatismen ist mir schon klar, aber ich denke wenn eine Antwort auf ein Tiket rein kommt liest da schon Einer. Es wird also gelesen werden, jemand wird "Arschloch!" denken und weitere Konsequenzen wird das nicht haben.


Gruß,

Holm

PS: Manno, Rechtschreibung kann man meine Produktion wohl nicht nennen, sorry.
 
Ich sage auch mal so: Es hat hier bei BSDForen.de an der Spam-Front Wunder gewirkt, alle Nutzer mit *hotmail*, *live* und *outlook* in der Adresse generell erstmal zur manuellen Überprüfung zu schicken. Ich glaube, kaum ein Mensch nutzt diese Adressen.
 
Hmm Die Antwort ist auch ohne Dein Popcorn schon relativ trocken,
das war die direkte Antwort, meine Mail hing unten dran.
Es wird also in 24-48h vielleicht mal interessant.
Ich bezweifele sehr stark, das da ein "Spam" über meine Kiste gelaufen ist,
Das Ding relayt nicht und nimmt nur Mail über SSL/TLS von Kunden entgegen.
Nirgendwo auf der Welt ist die IP in einer Blacklist, Mailinglisten habe ich auch
keine (mehr).
Schaunmermal ob ich wieder was von Denen höre..

Gruß,

Holm

Hello,

My name is Harish and I work with the Hotmail Deliverability Support
Team.

Your IP (46.4.195.8/29) was blocked by Windows Live Hotmail because
Hotmail customers have reported email from this IP as unwanted. I have
conducted an investigation into the emails originating from your IP
space and have implemented a mitigation for your deliverability
problem. This process may take 24 - 48 hours to replicate completely
throughout our system.



Please note that lifting the block does not guarantee that your email
will be delivered to a user's inbox. However, enrollment in our JMR
program and having your IPs registered with Sender ID will help with
your mail delivery to your recipient's inbox, thereby improving your
IP's reputation as well.

· Please ensure that you have published SPF records for your
sending domains and register with Sender ID. You can find additional
information and submit your domain for inclusion into the Sender ID
program at http://www.microsoft.com/senderID
<http://www.microsoft.com/senderID> Please note that technical
standards (RFC 4408) discourage use of "ptr" for performance and
reliability reasons.

· Monitor user complaints. Windows Live Hotmail also has a
sender complaint feedback loop program called the Junk Email Reporting
Program (JMRP). Enrollment in this free program will benefit you as a
sender as it will keep your email lists updated and populated with
interested Windows Live Hotmail customers. This program will help you
to remove those Windows Live Hotmail customers who do not want to
receive emails from your company. If you are interested in joining this
program, please visit
https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsjmrpp&ct=eformts
<https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsjmrpp&ct=eformts>

· Windows Live Hotmail has created the Smart Network Data
Services program. This is a service that helps legitimate email senders
work with their customers and partners to reduce spam originating from
their IP. To register, please go to http://postmaster.msn.com/snds
<http://postmaster.msn.com/snds> / This program allows a sender to
monitor the 'health' of their IPs.

While using the SNDS tool, enrollment in the JMRP or having your IPs
registered with Sender ID will not allow emails from your mail servers
to bypass our filters, these are in place to help legitimate companies
deliver their emails to Windows Live Hotmail customers.

· Apply for the Sender Score Certified Mail program.
If you are doing all the above and you continue to have deliverability
issues, you may wish to consider joining the Sender Score Certified
Mail Program, a third party program administered by Return Path, Inc.
Many legitimate mailers and marketers have qualified and joined this
program to improve mail deliverability and decrease email from being
filtered to the Junk E-mail Folder. Sender Score
(www.senderscorecertified.com <http://www.senderscorecertified.com/> )
is the only service to which we subscribe



The troubleshooting steps in this email are recommendations only.
Microsoft makes no guarantees that following these steps will guarantee
deliverability to MSN, Windows Live Hotmail, or Live.com customers.

For more detailed information about best sending practices to Windows
Live Hotmail users, please review the following white paper:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/3/3/e3397e7c-17a6-497d-9693-78f
80be272fb/enhance_deliver.pdf
<http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/3/3/e3397e7c-17a6-497d-9693-78
f80be272fb/enhance_deliver.pdf>

Sincerely,

Harish
Hotmail Deliverability Support
 
Sieht aus als würde da nicht nur einer arbeiten:
Hello Holm,

My name is Amrita and I work with the Outlook.com Sender Support Team.

A mitigation has been applied for your IP. Your IP is not on any block
list. This process may take 24 - 48 hours to replicate completely
throughout our system.

Sincerely,

Amrita
Outlook.com Deliverability Support


Gruß,

Holm
 
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